("X_X) with ming
- ming:
- arsyan
- pick up
- arsyan:
- wait im having conversation with tim for a while
- ming:
- yup
- ok
- you ready?
- arsyan:
- shit ...
- did tim tell u
- ming:
- yes
- of course he did!
- arsyan:
- man ...
- ming:
- listen
- i'm fine
- pick up your phone
- i'm not going to scold you or anything
- !
- hAHAHAHHAH
- arsyan:
- haha .. i dont feel like talking now ...
- why dont we just msn haha
- ming:
- ok
- fine... but i will still want to talk to you
- i dun like msn .
- as it masks the true person
- lso tel
- me arsyan
- why
- is the first question always asked
- arsyan:
- well
- like i told tim
- its the best interest for both the company and me
- im just not happy working with nuffnang
- ming:
- why?
- i know you dun like me ... but is there an outside reason?
- besides that?
- arsyan:
- : P
- how can u say that
- haha
- ming:
- hhahaah listen lah ... its ok ...
- we all have roles to play
- the harder person ...
- its a persona
- and my natural instinct too
- ewe tiam on the other hand is softer
- its his natural instinct
- from the trip
- it was not hard to tell also lah ...
- i felt sad
- but hey
- i get that alot ....
- arsyan:
- hard to tell what ?
- ming:
- hard to tell that you din't like me lah
- dude
- i never said that
- ming:
- look dude ... seriously dun worry about it
- arsyan:
- and i never gave any signal that i dont
- ming:
- i got too big an ego to worry about it!
- hahahahahah
- arsyan:
- u think carefully
- i sat with u infront most of the time in the car
- i struck conversation with u most of the time
- rather that the rest of the ppl in the group
- and u think i dont like u ?
- im not kissing ur ass or anything
- ming:
- i understand
- but it doesnt matter
- this is all secondary
- you must obviously not like something about nuffnang
- and i can tell you ... nuffnang
- right now
- being as small as it is
- is a culmination of both me and tiam
- so there is something between the two of us...
- that you dun like ... or are uncomfortable with
- i know you've always been unsettled
- and both me and tiam have tried to make things easier for you to settle in
- that is why
- with that knowledge
- today's "announcement"
- does not come as a surprise
- arsyan:
- i understand ...
- and i appriciate what u 2 have done
- and i think
- its the best of both of our interest correct
- ming:
- ok
- arsyan:
- since this does not come in as a suprise for u
- i mean whats the point ...
- of both of us pretending we need each other
- ming:
- its in the best of BOTH our interests
- only on conditions
- arsyan:
- yes definately
- ming:
- firstly, that you finish up the work dude on NN2.0
- arsyan:
- well
- that might be a problem
- ming:
- why?
- dun tell me you lack the skills
- that is nonsense
- and we both know it
- a simple perpetuation
- of our current system is all that is needed
- arsyan:
- its not that
- i just dont think i can go thru with it
- its just wasint my time and effort only
- ming:
- well i'm sorry
- but this needs to be done
- your contract states two months notice .... and that is till october
- that is when nn2.0 is due to launch
- now you can sit in
- and do nothing ... but ....
- there will be consequences
- which legally we are allowed to do
- for example dock your pay ....
- during the two months ....
- i'm sorry ... but this needs to be done
- arsyan:
- i dont understand .. dock ?
- meaning ?
- ming:
- meaning ... if you within the two months
- refuse to do anything
- sit on your thumb
- you will not be collecting your pay ... as it is prescribed in your contracts
- you will face penalties
- so your two months of time
- you will "waste"
- and we won't "waste" much money on you either because the truth
- is that you are taking us for a ride
- which i cannot allow
- arsyan:
- well i woudlnt want to take u guys for a ride
- beleive me
- ming:
- then help us
- tat is all i ask
- help us move a little bit forward
- dun leave us in the lurch
- arsyan:
- in fact
- i dont even expect u guys to pay me if u still want me to work
- because ...
- i rather much HELP nuffnang rather than WORK FOR nuffnang
- ming:
- If that is the case
- i feel alot more assured ....
- but like i said dude ...
- NN2.0
- needs to launch
- you know you have the capabilities
- if you can do it within a shorter time
- as i believe you can
- you can go sooner
- for all i care ...
- i just want results
- i need something
- from thiswhole experience
- it was not easy approaching you
- there were alot f apprehension and doubt on our side
- and we just do not want you to be a complete failure on our side ...
- with no results to show
- arsyan:
- yes u see
- i already sense this from u guys
- the "doubtful" vibe uve been sending
- ming:
- of course
- we judge people
- by results
- we were waiting for today
- a warrior
- would rise to the challenge
- and show us something good
- better than what we expect
- such that all doubts.
- would be cleared
- instead ....
- i am sorry to have to come to another conclusion today
- arsyan:
- haha
- yeah
- im sorry too
- ming:
- its the truth
- is it not?
- arsyan:
- as of this moment .. yeah it is
- ming:
- on the ONE deadline ....
- the first one ....
- we have naught to show ....
- it is unfortunate ....
- arsyan:
- it is unfortunate .. i didnt expect this is how i would feel in nuffnang
- but this is how it is ....
- i dont feel happy
- i dont have the courage
- ming:
- so yes arsyan .... as i said
- the first condition is that you do up as much of your work
- as possible before your time is up
- the second is ...
- its a responsibility
- if you understand that
- i dun feel happy alot of the times
- when shit happens
- but i get up eveery morning
- smile
- and say hi to the client
- wipe his ass
- so i get the deal
- i am responsible
- to Ewe TIam
- and to my workers!
- if i dun get this deal!
- I may have to fire somebody?
- Where is the money?
- Its not about courage ... its about responsibility
- arsyan:
- well
- i dont think i can bare the responsibility anymore
- i mean u and ewetiam
- has done a great job in marketting and getting clients
- very impressed
- ming:
- ok lah dude ...
- its as simple as this lah
- submit your resignation ... and you will leave 2 months from now ...
- within those two months .. work on nn2.0
- the faster you finish
- the faster you leave
- second thing is where you plan to go after this
- as you know
- there is a non compete clause
- at the same time
- you are bound by an NDA ...
- arsyan:
- i know lah
- dun worry
- ming:
- we worry ...
- arsyan:
- im not as a BETRAYER as u might think i am
- hahahah
- ming:
- Hahhaahaha
- wheather that is the case or not ... we have to state mah
- arsyan:
- correct
- ewe tiam and nuffnang and u
- will still be my friends
- and partner and share ideas
- ming:
- That is good
- arsyan:
- its just that
- i dont feel right right now
- anwyay
- i wont be going to any company
- i will prlly go to japan and seek my soul
- im lost right now
- really really lost
- ming:
- Hahahah .... ok dude ...
- that is fine ...
- if that is the case
- i will hook you up with friends in japan ... if you dun have any ....
- arsyan:
- u dont know how hard it is for me to tell this to tim today
- i ve been dreading for weeks already
- consulting ppl etc.
- ming:
- its fine ...
- arsyan:
- and i just want to say to u
- im trully sorry
- and i think its wise for me to step it up earlier .. than sooner
- ming:
- its ok .... i'm sorry too
- sorry ... because
- i could not make you happy in nuffnang
- arsyan:
- i dont want this to end bad
- and i hope both of us can be civil on this
- anyway im gonna jump of the balcony soon after this
- then easy hahahahhaha
- ming:
- hahaha dun do that ....
- after that you haunt the office how
- Hehehe joking
- arsyan:
- well
- tell me something
- from the begenning ..
- upon head hunting me frm adv
- when tim told u
- hes getting me in
- u were partially disagree in brining me in correct ?
- i mean tiam insist on it right ?
- ming:
- no
- all decisions are made jointly
- and if i wasnt convinced you would not be in today
- i was only worried
- that you would spy for advertlets ...
- which we took precations against ... and we took thedive ...
- in asense ...
- arsyan:
- haha
- beleaive me
- when the moon falls down on my lap
- would only i go to josh
- ming:
- ahahahaha ...
- arsyan:
- and im not that kind of person to spy ..
- i have ethics
- i dont even look at the bloggers password in the database
- because i thikn its unethical
- ming:
- that is the primary concern ... but as a warning shot ... if that happens .... we will defend ourslves ...with all neccrssary might ...
- it is our lives
- you must understand
- nuffnang is me and ewe tiam
- we have sacrificed
- everything for this
- arsyan:
- i know
- i understand
- yeah i wouldnt want to be that person
- ming:
- and it must succeed
- so dude
- we want to be civil ... and we wil lact as such
- do what you can .. and should for NN2.0
- at least
- bring it to the level
- it is now
- rework the code ....
- tim will proof it
- as soon as that is done
- you may leave ...
- i will
- not hold you to the 2 months
- we will continue to be friends
- and you can rest assured that we will be good ones
- arsyan:
- hehe
- i cant beleive u think i hate u ?
- hahahah
- i mean ...
- in sgpore .. i think in the car .. ive talked most to u .. and show interest in getting to know u
- ming:
- as a person
- i know how i come across as
- to people who meet me the first time
- 90 percent
- hateme
- my friends
- ALL
- hate me first
- before liking me later
- arsyan:
- well thats ok ...
- my first impressiosn with ppl
- 90% of them
- thinks im GAY
- (-_-)
- how fucked up is that ?
- ming:
- ahahahaha
- if anything
- i thought you were too ungay
- too man
- arsyan:
- haha
- well ur prolly the 10%
- ming:
- i will be up in kl next week
- on a scheduled trip
- with huiwen
- before heading back
- i have not seen the office
- and would like to do so
- we can talk more then ...
- arsyan:
- ok ...